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It is important to note that knocking and going gin are not mutually exclusive. From Pagat: Knocking with no unmatched cards at all is called going gin [...] And Wikipedia: Knocking with 0 points of deadwood is known as going Gin or having a Gin hand [...] If you announced a zero count, then you have gone gin. If you announced a non-zero count, ...


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The sequence of play should be: You knock You announce your count (or gin) You can do this silently by laying down your cards organized with the extras clearly off to the side in an unmatched group. Your opponent lays out there hand, laying off on your cards if you didn't gin. The important questions are then - Did you announce a count? Did your ...



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