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comment Who won this game of Settlers of Catan?
@Pat, indeed, LittleBobbyTables interprets that same line as "While you may not have claimed to have won during your turn, by the rules set forth in the game you still did win on your turn." Well, at least this case was resolved peacefully and we can all now be happy settles--if we can find the time :D
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comment Who won this game of Settlers of Catan?
@Tetteh, and at which point did I disagree that player B did indeed win (after receiving the clarification email)? ...
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answered Who won this game of Settlers of Catan?
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comment Who won this game of Settlers of Catan?
@Tetteh, continuing the game does not mean the game did not end. A player can keep playing after the referee (the rule book) had ended the game. Because there was too much ambient noise and no players heard the whistle doesn't mean what they do after counts. In any event, Mayfair Games just responded to my email and they clarified the rule. I'll post a new answer in a minute.
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comment Who won this game of Settlers of Catan?
@Tetteh, there is no such thing as a "rule of reversibility." It was a precedence. Its criteria was "can we reverse an illegal move where the person who moved illegally does not benefit?" The answer is yes (building out of turn; player B making an illegal move after the turn has ended). Player B's move was illegal, and not not player A.
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comment Who won this game of Settlers of Catan?
@Tetteh, forgetting to rob is not an illegal move. It does not end the game either. You can't compare forgetting to take a card, or to rob, to not ending the game. That is not legal. Once found out subsequent turns are rendered illegal and rolled back; a la constructing outside of your turn. The game ended irrespective of how the players feel, or who forgot to do what, or whatever. Forgetting to rob has no such impact.
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comment Who won this game of Settlers of Catan?
@Tetteh, Forgetting to rob does not "end the game." You lose your chance to rob. The game continues. Reaching 10 points ends the game. Since the game had already ended, any subsequent turns are invalid. The robber instance is not valid since the game still continues. It was not an illegal move. Building outside of your turn was illegal, but we went back and altered that, and returned the cards.
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comment Who won this game of Settlers of Catan?
That's irrelevant. The rule book has an imperative declaration "the game ends immediately" -- that is an order. It does not say who must, should, or who has responsibility to carry it out. It says the game ends. Therefore the game ended at the end of Player A's turn. Objectivity is built into the rule book.
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comment Who won this game of Settlers of Catan?
@Tetteh, wow, too many words. To address your first chunk: The game does not say you need to declare or claim victory. It says reaching 10 points does it. That's objective. Trying to argue that this is the players responsibility is your opinion. The book clearly says otherwise.
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comment Who won this game of Settlers of Catan?
@thesunneversets, so do you agree then that the game should have ended and any further play was illegal? Therefore, player A, the player who had 10 victory points but only realized after his turn had ended, should have been declared a winner?
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