Timeline for If a creature would die from an equipment unattaching, does that creature die with the effects of the equipment?
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| Nov 3, 2022 at 17:42 | comment | added | Hackworth | @DavidJacobsen The question body gives no hint that the title posed that more general question. OP made it clear that the question was specifically about the Shirei/Wargear combo, making a bunch of 1/1 creatures and using the Wargear as a repeatable sac outlet. And just to answer your question, yes, if the creature died to marked damage after unattaching the Wargear, it would still die as a 1/1, except as an SBA instead of to the Wargear ability. | |
| Nov 3, 2022 at 15:35 | comment | added | David Jacobsen | This answers OP's specific question in the body but not the general question posed in the title. What if the creature had taken non-lethal damage but unattaching the equipment caused the creatures toughness to be reduced, which makes the previously non-lethal damage, lethal damage? I believe it would have it's P/T without the equipment's bonus for any calculation but I'm not sure as the answer here focuses a bit on the Triggered Ability's impact on the process. | |
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| Nov 3, 2022 at 8:30 | history | edited | Hackworth | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 3, 2022 at 0:05 | comment | added | Acccumulation | @DenisS With Skullclamp, the creature loses toughness from a continuous effect, and then dies from a state based action. None of that uses the stack. With Grafter Wargear, the sacrifice effect is triggered and does use the stack. | |
| Nov 2, 2022 at 17:59 | vote | accept | BeanDragon | ||
| Nov 2, 2022 at 17:23 | comment | added | Hackworth | Correct, if the creature dies while the equipment is still attached, its last known information (the state in which it last existed on the battlefield) is used, and it would show a 2/0 died, not triggering Sihrei. | |
| Nov 2, 2022 at 17:19 | comment | added | DenisS | For the sake of the OP, this is different in the case of, oh let's say Skullclamp, correct? The 1/1 creature dies as a result of having 0 toughness, dies as a 2/0, and does not trigger Shirei? | |
| Nov 2, 2022 at 15:52 | history | answered | Hackworth | CC BY-SA 4.0 |