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So, at the Prerelease this past weekend I pulled a Dismiss Into Dream from the packs I won.

I LOVE the flavor of this card and I think I could abuse it. I wanted to check on rulings though:

  1. Dismiss Into Dream + Living Inferno: Would I be able to declare the targets and then they would all have to be sacrificed before they dealt damage to Living Inferno? And furthermore, could I choose any number and just have them all take 0 damage?

  2. Dismiss Into Dream + Cauldron of Souls: Same sort of question: Could I target them then they have to be sacrificed before the creatures get Persist?

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  • A lot of 7 drops can be "abused" - I think the idea is if you can play a 7 drop in a constructed format, it really should win you the game.
    – corsiKa
    Jul 15, 2013 at 19:44
  • @corsiKa I almost exclusively play casual and limited. And the casual I play is very, very slow multiplayer (most often) which means we get to set up grand strategies and execute them. It's a pretty good time and this card fits perfectly into what I play.
    – Milo Gertjejansen
    Jul 15, 2013 at 19:49
  • @MiloGertjejansen Here's a gatherer search with more "any number of target creature" options. Sway of Illusion in particular seems to fit perfectly mechanically and thematically. A board wipe when Dismiss into Dream is in play, and draw a card, all for the low cost of two mana! Artful Dodge also seems an exceptional fit.
    – ghoppe
    Jul 16, 2013 at 18:20
  • @ghoppe Thanks! I did see those and I added them to my deck list. I am getting pretty excited for this deck with the release of M14.
    – Milo Gertjejansen
    Jul 16, 2013 at 22:37
  • Just remember to target one of your own creatures with Sway of illusion so that it still resolves and you get your card! :)
    – Affe
    Jul 22, 2013 at 21:41

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Yes, it is powerful, but for 7 that is to be expected.

Targeting a creature affected by Dismiss Into Dream will have them sacrificed before the spell/ability targeting them resolves. This is because the effect created by Dismiss Into Dream will go on the stack after the spell targeting the creature.

To address your specific questions:

No on your combo with living inferno, a ruling on gatherer prevents you from assigning 0 damage:

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=96874

You divide the damage among the target creatures as you activate Living Inferno's ability. Each target must be assigned at least 1 damage.

Yes, on your combo with Cauldron of souls.

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  • Oooo this makes me happy. I also am looking at Sea King's Blessing for a U board wipe.. This is extra good since I play multiplayer often, this sort of thing tends to pay off quite well. Thanks for the answer! As a side note, I did read your first paragraph, with the stack. So wouldn't Living Inferno get dealt a ton of damage after all the creatures are sacrificed? Or does his ability look for the creatures at the time of resolution?
    – Milo Gertjejansen
    Jul 15, 2013 at 19:04
  • @MiloGertjejansen good question... I do not know the answer. The damage dealt to living inferno is determined at resolution time while the creatures are in the graveyard.
    – Colin D
    Jul 15, 2013 at 19:16
  • Yeah, that's something I would have to look into. Also, it applies for the Cauldron: The cards would be in the graveyard when they gained persist in which case, they probably wouldn't return at all, since they didn't die with persist.
    – Milo Gertjejansen
    Jul 15, 2013 at 19:50
  • For the cauldron, they would not come back. The wording on persist says something like 'when a card with persist goes to the graveyard and does not have a -1/-1 counter' IIRC. They would be in the graveyard before having persist.
    – Colin D
    Jul 15, 2013 at 19:53
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    Living Inferno's ability fizzles. It never takes damage
    – Sam I am says Reinstate Monica
    Jul 15, 2013 at 21:45

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