If Deceiver of Form is used to copy my Biovisionary, does his "at the beginning of the end step" ability resolve before Deceiver of Form's "until end of turn" ability expires, thus making Deceiver of Form a fairly easy way to "win the game"?

  • I don't know if getting Deceiver forms with 4+ other creatures out and Biovisionary on the top would be called fairly easy.
    – Joe W
    Feb 6, 2016 at 15:41
  • i can typically play deceiver on turn 4 and i already have 3+ scions plus the creatures that spawned them
    – Addison
    Feb 6, 2016 at 15:43
  • it's not super easy but it's easier than playing 4 of them or playing one and 3 clones.
    – Addison
    Feb 6, 2016 at 15:45
  • So you rely just on the ability to cycle through your entire deck in order to get a Biovisonary on the top?
    – Joe W
    Feb 6, 2016 at 15:47
  • i have a few sylvan tutors and other ways to get it on top the point of the question was just to see if beggin and end would resolve separately
    – Addison
    Feb 6, 2016 at 16:30

1 Answer 1


Yes. "At the beginning of the end step" abilities trigger at, well, the beginning of the end step, while "until end of turn effects" expire at the beginning of the cleanup step, which is after the end step. Thus, Biovisionary's ability will trigger and resolve while all your creatures are still Biovisionaries.

Comprehensive Rules references:

512.1. The ending phase consists of two steps: end and cleanup. [This appears to be the closest thing to an explicit statement that end precedes cleanup.]

514.2. Second, the following actions happen simultaneously [during the cleanup step]: all damage marked on permanents (including phased-out permanents) is removed and all “until end of turn” and “this turn” effects end. This turn-based action doesn’t use the stack.


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