If I control a Renegade Doppelganger and I play Umara Raptor and choose for Renegade Doppleganger to copy it, would the Renegade Doppleganger get the +1/+1 counter?
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Are you asking about the 'when Umara Raptor enters the battlefield' part, or the 'when another Ally enters the battlefield' part of the ability? Since the first one is a duplicate of the one marked, but the second one would have a different reason (the answer is still no though)– diegoAug 14, 2017 at 18:28
2 Answers
No. This is covered in the rulings for Renegade Doppelganger:
If Renegade Doppelganger becomes a copy of another creature, that doesn’t count as having a creature enter the battlefield. Renegade Doppelganger was already on the battlefield; it only changed its characteristics. If Renegade Doppelganger gains any enters-the-battlefield triggered abilities, they won’t do anything. The same is true of any “as [this creature] enters the battlefield” or “[this creature] enters the battlefield with” abilities.
No,
Your renegade doppelganger will become an Umara raptor. but renegade doppleganger is not a Umara Raptor when Umara Raptor entered the battlefield and thus will not recieve a +1/+1 counter.
See following explanation:
Umara Raptor enters the battlefield:2 abilities will trigger
- Umara raptor will put a +1/+1 counter on itself.
- Renegade Doppelganger becomes a copy of Umara Raptor
There are currently no other "when ... enters the battlefield abilities present"
Both abilities will resolve. Umara Raptor is already on the battlefield after this.
EDIT: Note that Umara Raptors trigger can be split into 2 parts:
- Whenever Umara Raptor enters the battlefield (see BJ Myers answer, the Renegade Doppelganger never enters the battlefield because of his cloning ability)
- or another Ally enters the battlefield under your control (adressed in this answer)
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So if I played two uma raptors and compied the first one withRenegade would he get a +1/+1 when the second entered Aug 14, 2017 at 14:46
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