# Portcullis triggers

The oracle text for Portcullis is:

Whenever a creature enters the battlefield, if there are two or more other creatures on the battlefield, exile that creature. Return that card to the battlefield under its owner's control when Portcullis leaves the battlefield.

One of the official rulings for the card says that:

The creature does enter the battlefield, so any other abilities that trigger on it entering the battlefield trigger. This follows the normal rules for timing triggered abilities: first, the current player puts his or her abilities on the stack in any order, then each other player in turn order does the same. Portcullis’ own ability is included in this, so it could result in the creature being exiled after some abilities have resolved, but before others.

So clearly any entering creatures can result in EtB triggers going onto the stack in APNAP order, but when does "Portcullis’ own ability" go on the stack? And who determines the order?

Example: Portcullis is on the battlefield under the control of player B, who also has a single creature on the field. Player A casts Show and Tell, which resolves. Player A puts down an Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and player B puts down Grizzly Bears. They enter simultaneously. Neither has an EtB trigger (Emrakul's trigger is "on cast"). Who gets to decide the order of the Porcullis triggers? Portcullis’ controller? Or do the Portcullis triggers go on the stack as if the creatures had entered in APNAP order. If APNAP, order, then Player B's (NAP) trigger would go onto the stack after A's (AP) trigger and thus resolve first, exiling the Bears and then when Emrakul's trigger resolves, there would be only two creatures, so Emrakul would stick. OTOH, if Portcullis' controller gets to choose, (s)he could put the Bears' trigger on the stack first, followed by Emrakul, so the trigger for Emrakul would see two other creatures and Emrakul would be exiled. Then the Bears would see only one other creature and would stay on the battlefield.

I would guess that I'm reading too much into the phrase "Portcullis’ own ability" and that the answer is simply APNAP, but I'm not sure.

Thanks.

• I'm not sure I understand what you are asking, I can address your specific example, but I can't see how it relates to "So clearly any entering creatures can result in EtB triggers going onto the stack in APNAP order, but when does "Portcullis’ own ability" go on the stack? And who determines the order?' Nov 13, 2017 at 18:28

Triggered abilities that trigger simultaneously are always put on the stack in APNAP order. Specifically, this means that the active player puts the triggered abilities that they control onto the stack in any order they choose, then each other player in turn order does the same. In the case of Portcullis, the player who controls the triggered ability is the player who controls Portcullis itself, so that player chooses the order in which its triggers go on the stack if multiple creatures enter simultaneously.

So, in your specific example, player B controls the Portcullis, so they decide the order in which the triggers go on the stack, allowing them to effectively decide which creature gets exiled.

The ruling you quoted simply means that if there are other triggered abilities that trigger the same time as Portcullis's own ability, then Portcullis's ability may appear before, after, or even in between them on the stack, depending on who controls those abilities and in what order they decide to put them on the stack.

• Thank you! I was not at all clear on who controlled Portcullis' ability (or if anyone did).
– prn
Nov 14, 2017 at 12:53

The player who controls Portcullis gets to choose the order in which the Portcullis triggers go on the stack.

Player B has a Portcullis and a Storm Crow on the field, Player A has nothing on the field.
Player A casts Show and Tell it resolves with no response. Player A selects Emrakul, the Aeons Torn, and Player B selects Grizzly Bears. The Portcullis's EtB effect triggers for both creatures, and is put on the stack. Player B chooses the order in which they go on the stack since he controls Portcullis, as per comprehensive rules (emphasis mine):

603.3b: If multiple abilities have triggered since the last time a player received priority, each player, in APNAP order, puts triggered abilities he or she controls on the stack in any order he or she chooses. (See rule 101.4.) Then the game once again checks for and resolves state-based actions until none are performed, then abilities that triggered during this process go on the stack. This process repeats until no new state-based actions are performed and no abilities trigger. Then the appropriate player gets priority.

Let's assume that Player B chose to put the Emrakul trigger on top of the Grizzly Bear trigger. The Portcullis ability that went on the stack second (and is on top) will resolve first. The ability will see that there are currently two other creatures (Grizzly Bear and Storm Crow) on the battlefield and that creature (Emrakul) will be exiled.
The Portcullis ability that went on the stack first (and is underneath) will then resolve, see that there is only one other creature on the battlefield, and that creature (Grizzly Bear) will not be exiled.

So assuming that Player B plays correctly the end result will be a Grizzly Bear and a Storm Crow on the field and an Emrakul in exile.

• Thank you! This answer is close, but note that I specified that B had another creature on the field because Portcullis' ability exiles incoming creatures when there are two or more other creatures on the battlefield. As you restated it neither incoming creature would be exiled. However, your point that B gets to choose the order of Portcullis' triggers on the stack is what I needed to know. Thanks,.
– prn
Nov 14, 2017 at 13:05
• Thanks again, Malco. That was helpful. Actually, when it comes down to it, I find
– prn
Nov 15, 2017 at 15:23