I have the following cards: 2,A,A,A,8,8,8,8,8,8,J,J AND 3. I need 120 for my initial meld. My opponent throws an 8 on to the discard pile. We have always played that I could make the initial meld using: 2,A,A,A and 8,8,8,8 = 120 and then pick up the discard pile with the pair of 8s remaining in my hand. My opponent said this was an illegal move. Could you please clarify this for me?


Yes, you can do this, but you have the order wrong. You don’t first meld, and then pick up the discard pile. You need you first show 2 8s from your hand, and lay them down along with the enough other cards so that the total meld is at least 120, which can incude the value of the 8 from the discard pile as well.

From these rules:

Therefore, in order to achieve the minimum count, you must either meld entirely from your hand after drawing from the stock, or you must use two natural cards from your hand which match the top card of the discard pile. In this second case, you can count the value of the top discard, along with the cards you play from your hand in this and any other melds, towards the minimum count. You cannot count any other cards in the pile which you may intend to add in the same turn.

  • If we play that you cannot count the value of the top discard and the pair as part of the initial meld, would you still agree that you can do this. – Sue Dec 31 '18 at 22:50
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    @Sue I don’t understand your question. It sounds like you are talking about using a house rule where you can’t use those points as part of the minimum? You can use whatever house rules you want; but it’s not how the regular game works. – GendoIkari Jan 1 '19 at 20:44
  • @Sue looks like I misread part of your question. I have updated my answer to be more specific. – GendoIkari Jan 1 '19 at 21:01

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