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If I have a card out like Animar, Soul of Elements and my opponent cast a Murder and targets Animar, would I be able to morph my Mistfire Weaver and give Animar hexproof in response so that he doesn't die, or does he still die?

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    @BJMyers That answers the "in response" part, but not the "hexproof" part. – Arthur Feb 4 at 5:33
  • I agree with Arthur, the stack is only half the answer here. Hexproof as a means to fizzle targeted spells has to do with casting spells. – Hackworth Feb 4 at 9:43
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    Umm Animar is an illegal target for Murder, black or white spells cannot target Animar. – Andrew Feb 4 at 15:50
  • @Andrew the first answer adresses this. – Hackworth Feb 4 at 16:39
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So this is really a question about how the stack works. First, to ansewer your question, Animar, Soul of Elements has protection from Black, so Murder can't be cast targeting Animar, unless Animar somehow lost protection from black. Ruling:

702.16. Protection

702.16a Protection is a static ability, written “Protection from [quality].” This quality is usually a color (as in “protection from black”) but can be any characteristic value or information. If the quality happens to be a card name, it is treated as such only if the protection ability specifies that the quality is a name. If the quality is a card type, subtype, or supertype, the ability applies to sources that are permanents with that card type, subtype, or supertype and to any sources not on the battlefield that are of that card type, subtype, or supertype. This is an exception to rule 109.2.

702.16b A permanent or player with protection can’t be targeted by spells with the stated quality and can’t be targeted by abilities from a source with the stated quality.

But let's assume the person who cast Murder picked a valid target and then you turned Mistfire Weaver face up. Stack is first in, last out. So Murder goes on the stack targeting a valid creature. Mistfire Weaver gets turned face up triggering it's ability and goes on the stack targeting the same creature (if the creature has protection from blue, then Mistfire's ability can't target the same creature). Mistfire's ability resolves first (top of the stack, first out) giving the creature hexproof. Then Murder tries to resolve, but sees it no longer has any legal targets and leaves the stack without doing anything.

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    Love the technical accuracy with this, since of course the actual flip is a stackless action. – corsiKa Feb 4 at 17:49
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    A slight clarification to generalize your statement: Murder sees all of its targets (in this case just the one) as invalid and fizzles. Relevant when targeting multiple things and only one gets hexproof. – Veskah Feb 4 at 21:31
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Any spell with the word "target" has two checks, one on cast and one on resolution. This means if you have a spell with the wording as follows: "Destroy target non-artifact creature" (go for the throat) it makes 1 check on cast (with multiple conditions), whether it is a valid target, which means it does not have protection, does not have shroud, does not have hexproof AND is a non-artifact creature (because the card makes it so). If all this checks are ok, you can put the spell on the stack. If the conditions are not met you CAN'T cast the spell. So this first check is done by the player and enforced by the rules even before casting really.

It will then when the stack is empty and it is resolving, whether the conditions of the spell apply, it checks for the same things as before.

One slightly different example is Fatal Push, as the wording is "if the creature converted mana cost is 2" this part is only checked on resolution and not on cast as it is not a condition of the target, but of the killing. Look at the different wording between them and it will make sense.

Answering your question, if something gains hexproof, murder will just fizzle.

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