What happens when you clone a face-down creature, for example with the cards Clone and Sagu Mauler? Does the clone become a 2/2 with no abilities?

  • Thought on the side: You usually wont know which face-down creature is which, so you wouldn't know, which to clone (if you clone the face down creature). As long as the face-downy is not your creature.
    – Erik
    Commented Mar 20, 2019 at 10:38

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Correct, a copy of a face-down 2/2 creature is also a 2/2 creature.

A copy effect can only ever copy what's visible to all players. Any characteristics of an object that are not visible to all players can have no effect on gameplay, unless they are revealed to everyone before or as they affect the gameplay.

707.2a If a face-up permanent is turned face down by a spell or ability that doesn't list any characteristics for that object, it becomes a 2/2 face-down creature with no text, no name, no subtypes, and no mana cost. A permanent that enters the battlefield face down also has these characteristics unless otherwise specified by the effect that put it onto the battlefield face down or allowed it to be cast face down. These values are the copiable values of that object's characteristics.


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