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I am really curious, does Dovescape counter enchantment creatures (such as Archetype of Aggression), or because they are also a creature, bypass it due to "noncreature spells" being part of it?

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Expanding on Erik's correct answer.

205.2b Some objects have more than one card type (for example, an artifact creature). Such objects satisfy the criteria for any effect that applies to any of their card types.

Dovescape checks as a spell is being cast that that spell lacks the creature type. A spell with both enchantment and creature fulfills both types, so is not non-creature. (It is both fully a creature spell, and fully an enchantment spell)

Also good to note: a very similar case is called out specifically in Bestow's ruling:

702.102c The check for whether a spell can legally be cast happens after its controller has chosen whether to pay its bestow cost; see rule 601.2e. Example: Aether Storm is an enchantment with the ability “Creature spells can’t be cast.” This effect doesn’t stop a creature card with bestow from being cast for its bestow cost because the spell is an Aura enchantment spell, not an enchantment creature spell, when the game checks whether the spell is illegal.

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    Basically, "non-creature" means "not (card has creature type)", not "card has (not creature type)". – Acccumulation Aug 29 at 16:01
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Enchantment creatures have both types: enchantment and creature. Therefore when being cast they are not countered by Dovescape, since they are part creature.


This is different if you cast an enchantment creature for its bestow cost.

702.102 Bestow

702.102a [...] "If you chose to pay this spell's bestow cost, it becomes an Aura enchantment and gains enchant creature. [...]"

So Dovescape would counter an enchantment creature cast as an aura.

  • would the bestow creature become a critter after being countered? – Neil Meyer Aug 30 at 10:52
  • Nope, if the spell is countered, then it won't enter the battlefield. Why would it be otherwise? – Erik Aug 30 at 12:02

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