# What is the optimal strategy for deciding dice to reroll when trying to reach a target value?

Let's say that I have N dice (standard d6) and I'm trying to reach a value of x or higher. I roll all of the dice once and I don't get my target value. I can do one reroll and can freely choose which dice to reroll and which to keep as they are, but I have to accept whatever number I get with the reroll.

Is there a a statistically valid way of calculating which dice I should reroll? So for example if I have 3 dice and have a target value of 18 I would want to reroll any die that wasn't a 6. However, what if my target number is a 17 and I have 5's on all dice, I need to reroll one die, but how do I determine how many to reroll?

depending on how difficult it is to determine the optimal rolling strategy I'd also be interested in any shorthand strategy that would allow one to quickly come up with a close approximation to the ideal solution.

ps. I'm asking this here because this situation comes up in so many board games. I know the Math board would likely be better able to give me a quick answer, but I figure the answer is more useful here, this is where other's wanting to know such a strategy are more likely to find it.

• With the minimal details given here, there is no optimal strategy; the answer will depend on the relative penalties for failure and success - i.e. if rerolling can produce a worse result than your current one. Nov 6, 2021 at 17:34

You want to go through each of your dice from lowest to highest and, if your chance of success is at least as good if you re-roll that die than if you do not re-roll that die, add that die to your list of re-rolls. As soon as you find a die that worsens your current chance of succeeding, stop, and re-roll all the previous dice in this procedure. If you run out of dice, re-roll everything.

For example, if you roll [4, 5, 5] and are trying to beat a 17, here is what it would look like:

1. Base case, re-roll nothing: chance of success = 0.

2. Consider re-rolling : chance of success = 0. This is the same, so keep going

3. Consider re-rolling [4, 5]: chance of success = 1 / 36. This is better than the previous proposition, so keep going.

4. Consider re-rolling [4, 5, 5]: chance of success 4 / 216. This is worse than the previous proposition, so stop and re-roll the previous proposition, namely [4, 5].

Optimal result: re-roll [4, 5].

The reason that this works is that if re-rolling a given die is not helpful, you won't want to re-roll any die with a higher result as it will be even less beneficial. Similarly, if re-rolling a given die is helpful, you will want to re-roll any die lower than it at least as much, because re-rolling that will be even more beneficial. This assumes all of your dice are the same size (ex. D6s). The analysis is much more complicated with dice of different sizes.

Here's a more formal (i.e. Python) statement of the algorithm:

``````def find_rerolls(dice, target):
if sum(dice) >= target:
# If you are already over the target, don't re-roll anything
return []

rerolls = []  # This is the list of dice to be re-rolled, which starts empty
p = 0  # This is the probability that your current rerolls will be greater than the target value
for die in sorted(dice):  # for each die, starting with the lowest
new_rerolls = rerolls + [die]
# This is the total we would need to beat given the dice we are re-rolling
reroll_target = target - sum(dice) + sum(new_rerolls)
new_p = probability_greater_than_target(len(new_rerolls), reroll_target)
if new_p >= p:
# re-rolling this die improves your chance of success (or is at least break-even), so do it
p = new_p
rerolls = new_rerolls
else:
# Re-rolling that die hurts.  Given all other dice are at least as high, stop trying
return rerolls
# Re-roll everything
return rerolls
``````

The only thing missing from this is the implementation of `probability_greater_than_target(number_of_dice, target)` (i.e. what is the probability that a set of dice will be higher than a target without re-rolls), which is then a well-formed question for math stack exchange.

• Great answer! One nit: it's not strictly true that "if re-rolling a given die is helpful, you will want to re-roll all dice lower than it." For example, suppose you rolled 5 on one die and 4s on the rest, and you're 1 short of the target. If you reroll the 5, you have a 1/6 chance of rolling a 6 and reaching the target. However, if we let the number of dice go to infinity, rerolling all the 4s as well will guarantee failure since the mean of a d6 is only 3.5. Mar 9 at 20:00
• Fortunately, this is simple to repair: observe that, given the choice of rerolling one of two dice, you would never prefer to reroll the lower one. Thus for any potential selection of dice to reroll, you could repeatedly swap dice until the lowest dice are selected for the reroll while improving the solution (or at least breaking even). So in the above example, you would reroll a 4 instead of (rather than in addition to) the 5. Mar 9 at 20:13
• @HighDiceRoller edited to "you will want to re-roll any die lower than it". It's the all dice that's problematic
– Zags
Mar 10 at 18:40

## Expected Value

Expected value is the statistically 'average' result of a random event. That is to say, if you did the randomization action a million times, what would be the average value of your results.

It's calculated as P(R1)*V(R1) + P(R2)*V(R2) + .. + P(Rn)*V(Rn), where P(Ri) is the Probability of Result i, and V(Ri) is the Value of Result i.

For a single die roll this amounts to 1/6 * 1 + 1/6 * 2 + 1/6 * 3 + 1/6 * 4 + 1/6 * 5 + 1/6*6 = 3.5 Notably, you can't actually roll 3.5 on a 6-sided die, but that's the expected value anyways.

For an event with an symmetric distribution like a die roll (or any number of die rolls), the odds of getting the expected value or higher is >= 50%. (Specifically it's 50% + half the probability of rolling exactly the expected value)

If you're looking for a rule of thumb, reroll any dice below the die's expected value. Note that this only is a good rule of thumb for symmetric distributions. If you're playing a lottery where your winnings are 75% \$0, 24% 10\$ and 1% \$1,000,000 then your expected value is \$10,002.4, and this rule would indicate that you should reroll for anything under the jackpot - but if you're only playing the game once you're actually probably better off keeping a \$10 win rather than gambling for the 1% chance.

There's an old saying that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. There's no rule of thumb to help you decide whether you should risk existing results for ones that are statistically better, but not guaranteed to be better. That will always depend on the game state.

The reverse is also possible, where the statistics aren't in your favor, but your current rewards aren't valuable enough to be worth keeping, so there is incentive to stretch into long odds.

• Expected value of each die is the way to go to maximize expected total. But it breaks down when trying to evaluate beating a target. For example, if you want to roll at least 17 with three D6s, and have rolled [5, 5, 5], expected value says "don't re-roll any because they're all over 3.5". But that's clearly wrong, since re-rolling some gives you a chance of winning whereas keeping all your current dice does not.
– Zags
Nov 7, 2021 at 2:00
• @Zags yeah, that was what I was talking about in my last paragraph, although admittedly from the other direction, where you're statistically likely to gain, but the thresholds fall against it. I've added a bit for the reverse. Nov 7, 2021 at 3:49