Codie, Vociferous Codex states:

You can’t cast permanent spells.

Sol Talisman is a permanent with suspend. Suspend states:

When the last (time counter) is removed, cast (this spell) without paying its mana cost.

If I have a Codie, Vociferous Codex on the battlefield and I remove the last time counter from a Sol Talisman, is the Sol Talisman cast, since you have no choice in whether or not it is cast? Or does Codie win, and disallow the casting, leaving Sol Talisman permanently exiled?


Your suspended Sol Talisman cannot be cast (and it stays exile).

One of the Magic Golden Rules specifies that "can't" always overrides "can."

101.2. When a rule or effect allows or directs something to happen, and another effect states that it can’t happen, the “can’t” effect takes precedence.

The full comprehensive rules for Suspend confirms that if the spell isn't cast it remains exiled (with no time counters). Here are the relevant rules regarding Suspend (702.62) (emphasis mine)

702.62a Suspend is a keyword that represents three abilities. The first is a static ability that functions while the card with suspend is in a player’s hand. The second and third are triggered abilities that function in the exile zone. “Suspend N—[cost]” means “If you could begin to cast this card by putting it onto the stack from your hand, you may pay [cost] and exile it with N time counters on it. This action doesn’t use the stack,” and “At the beginning of your upkeep, if this card is suspended, remove a time counter from it,” and “When the last time counter is removed from this card, if it’s exiled, play it without paying its mana cost if able. If you can’t, it remains exiled. If you cast a creature spell this way, it gains haste until you lose control of the spell or the permanent it becomes.”

So since Codie prevents your from casting permanent spells, you can never cast your Sol Talisman (even from exile via suspend).

As an aside, Codie's restriction also prevents you from even suspending the card in the first place.

702.62c While determining if you could begin to cast a card with suspend, take into consideration any effects that would prohibit that card from being cast.

  • 1
    I think 702.62c refers to the "if you could begin to cast..." wording in the ability that moves cards out of your hand into exile. (Meaning, interestingly, Codie prevents you from suspending permanents as well as playing them.) It's not related to the final triggered ability that finally casts.
    – Cadence
    Dec 9 '21 at 19:59
  • updated the answer
    – ryanyuyu
    Dec 9 '21 at 20:06
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    @Cadence That is strange since I thought suspend was exiling a card from your hand not beginning to cast it. Dec 9 '21 at 20:58
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    @TheDragonOfFlame Yes, but exiling the card has a condition of "If you could begin to cast...", as quoted in this answer. 702.62c specifically points out that this condition checks for effects like Codie's.
    – Cadence
    Dec 9 '21 at 21:54

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