How is the interaction between Narset, Parter of Veils with Seizan, Perverter of Truth? Does the opponent lose 2 life during the upkeep without drawing the cards?

  • My guess is they would draw a single card during their upkeep and skip both the second draw and the draw for their turn that is after the upkeep.
    – Joe W
    Commented Jun 8, 2023 at 21:56

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At the beginning if your opponent's upkeep, they will lose 2 life and draw 1 card. Then, during their draw step, they will draw 0 cards.

The life loss and card draw are not dependent upon each other or directly related, they are simply 2 different things that both happen when the triggered ability resolves.

101.2 When a rule or effect allows or directs something to happen, and another effect states that it can’t happen, the “can’t” effect takes precedence.

121.2. Cards may only be drawn one at a time. If a player is instructed to draw multiple cards, that player performs that many individual card draws.

This means that the "draw 2 cards" really means "Draw a card. Draw a card." When they get to the second "Draw a card", 101.2 kicks in and prevents them from doing that. Then, when they get to their draw step, 101.2 kicks in again and prevents that draw.

Your opponent still loses 2 life because that part of the effect is not contradicted by anything:

609.3. If an effect attempts to do something impossible, it does only as much as possible.


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