# How can I store all of the cards for my MtG Cube?

I've created my first cube during the last week. It's been fun and I'm eager to try it out. There's just one thing... How do I store it? The goal size is about 540 cards without basic lands. I guess I need about 200 basics too. For now I'll keep all cards except the basics in sleeves permanently but I might sleeve up the lands too.

Have you found any better boxes than those that comes with booster packs or shoe boxes (too big)? Do you keep all basic lands sleeved?

Probably, the best way to store a cube is in a properly sized corrugated trading card box. These boxes are fairly cheap, and with your local friendly game store's 100% markup, they shouldn't run you more than a couple dollars.

I wouldn't use booster pack boxes or shoe boxes. Booster boxes are too flimsy, because the are designed for display purposes. You might spill your cards everywhere. Shoeboxes do not have trading card dimensions (Each MtG card is approximately 63 x 88 mm in size), so it will be more difficult to keep the cards in order as you will have several stacks.

I would sleeve all your cards, including the basic lands. You will eventually need to play with the basic lands after the cube draft, so you will save everyone some time by having all the basic lands sleeved identically to the cube draft cards. As far as sizing your corrugated trading card box, that just comes down to some simple math:

(Note: I am using 288 microns for MtG card thickness, from mtgsalvation thread. The Wikipedia page says 305 microns, but the information isn't cited either. The difference is only 0.5" for 740 cards)

``````|                |Thickness|      | Total | Total  | Total  |
|Card/Sleeve Type|(microns)|#Cards| (cm)  | (inch) |Sleeved |
+----------------+---------+------+-------+--------+--------+
|Magic Card      |     288 |  740 | 21.29 |  8.384 |  8.38" |
|Unnamed (thick) |     110 |  740 |  8.14 |  3.205 | 14.8"  |
|Unnamed (thick) |     110 |  540 |  5.94 |  2.339 |        |
|Dragon Shield   |     100 |  740 |  7.4  |  2.913 | 14.2"  |
|Dragon Shield   |     100 |  540 |  5.4  |  2.126 |        |
|Mayday Premium  |      90 |  740 |  6.66 |  2.622 | 13.6"  |
|Mayday Premium  |      90 |  540 |  4.86 |  1.913 |        |
|"Penny" (thin)  |      40 |  740 |  2.96 |  1.165 | 10.7"  |
|"Penny" (thin)  |      40 |  540 |  2.16 |  0.850 |        |
+----------------+---------+------+-------+--------+--------+
``````

If you don't sleeve the cards at all, you will need a corrugated box with 8.38 inches interior space. Depending upon what thickness sleeves you are using, your cube will fit somewhere between 11"-15" (sleeve thickness doubled, since there are 2 sides). You can get a box that fits your cube snugly, or a slightly longer box so it is easier to remove cards. You can always use deckboxes to pad the extra space, or split the cube from the basic lands.

I did some testing with some penny sleeves I had, to verify some of the above numbers. 100 penny sleeves were about 1/2", so sleeving 740 should be about 3.75", which is quite a bit higher than the 2.33" estimate (after doubling thickness). The largest corrugated boxes sold have just over a 14" interior length, so you might have to store your basic lands in a different box than your cube.

• FWIW, I presume that when OP mentions 'shoe boxes' they mean the two-row card boxes of comparable dimensions; this is how I've always heard the phrase used. Jan 30 '15 at 19:45

The cardboard boxes that come with "fat packs" are sturdy, reasonably portable, and visually appealing. I don't think one can hold 750 sleeved cards, but two should be sufficient. Third-party online shops often resell just the boxes individually for a few dollars.

Players are going to need to sleeve up their basic lands anyway, so I see no reason not to put sleeves on them ahead of time.

If you're a perfectionist looking to make your Cube contain absolutely everything needed for play, your box could also include:

• Appropriate tokens for the cards in your cube (unsleeved or using different-color sleeves, to avoid confusion).
• A few extra sleeves to replace any that get damaged in play (not the biggest deal because you can always just steal sleeves from a few basic lands, but still handy).
• Life dice and counters (to save space and weight, small d6s are probably better than colored beads).
• You actually probably want to have a full pack or two of matching sleeves with the cube at any given time. With my buddy's cube, we wind up replacing anywhere from 5 to 20 sleeves a night when we sit down to cube with 6 to 8 people. Jul 25 '12 at 0:03
• @WLPhoenix That kinda sounds like a case of bad sleeves. Jul 25 '12 at 0:59
• I've been using these boxes for a while now and I'm quite pleased. Our 540 cube with lands (all sleeved) fits well in 3 of these boxes. I've been using a 4th box for different kind of tokens, dices and extra sleeves. May 15 '13 at 6:06
• My fat packs can hold 360 sleeved cards. Are you using penny sleeves? Sep 8 '16 at 17:20
• This isn't really an answer, but above and beyond sleeving I'll actually suggest double-sleeves - perfect fits on the cards directly, then slotted into e.g. KMC's super mat/hyper mat series or the equivalent. Sep 14 '16 at 4:59

There was a kickstarter for a metal cube briefcase. Looks like they are now available for purchase on http://www.cubevault.com/ for \$135. I have one of these and they are very good quality.

I highly suggest a cardboard box. I got a 1600 size box for about \$10. On the topic of lands and tokens, I keep 60 of each basic land (so 300 in total) with the cube at all times sleeved. my cube is from Khans/fate/dragons so tokens aren't really an issue, however I keep 10 of each token sleeved in a different color.

I don't recommend using the cub3 from ultra pro. Even though it can handily hold every card and land in my cube, I find it too large to travel with.

Hope this helps. JLD

• Also to differentiate, land types from each other I suggest using the dividers from the gift boxes, or from the more recent prerelease packs.
– jld
Aug 5 '16 at 21:30

Tolarian Community College did a fantastic review of MTG Cube Deck Boxes:

1. Ultra Pro CUB3: 900 cards in 80 USD cardboard. Home use only. F
2. Grimoire: 75 USD plastic. Home use only. C-
3. Ultimate Guard Stack'n'Safe: 2x480 cards in 2x12.50 USD plastic. May need an elastic band.
4. Aaron Cain: 125 USD* (prices vary) custom wood. A+
• You might want to add a little more context? Specifically, enough for a reader to have some kind of idea what they should learn, even if the page at the other end of the link goes dead. Nov 24 '15 at 9:39

Ultra-Pro has released a product for cube storage:

The MOX CUB3™, designed for Cubing, features a unique 2-level storage design. Holds 900 standard double-sleeved gaming cards in Ultra•PRO PRO-Fit & Deck Protector sleeves. Compartment for dice, stones and other accessories. Secure magnetic closure. 8½” x 8½” x 8½” (215.9mm x 215.9mm x 215.9mm).

• I'm curious if JWilson would like to endorse or modify the recent edit? In particular, adding a negative review of the originally posted solution does not feel like honoring the author's intent; this may have been more appropriate as a comment or a piece of a new answer. Sep 9 '16 at 20:39
• I don't actually have any experience with the product I originally posted, it was just a recent product release at the time. Sep 11 '16 at 1:46
• Though I do agree that changing my answer to something completely different is uncalled for. Sep 11 '16 at 3:36

There are two good options...

One is the cardboard card boxes mentioned by others.

The other is a two part plastic case; 500 cards is the largest I've seen; 300 card size is commonly available. Three boxes should do.

For comparison, the "300 card box" I've got has space for 10 decks of playing cards... in their boxes...

If you're going to sleeve, the cardboard boxes are the only "single box" solution; the acrylic card cases are going to need 2-4, but will hold sleeved cards just fine.