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### I am wondering how in the world the number 136,694 of directly dealt out Gin hands was arrived at

According to the accepted answer on the post containing that number, it originates in the book How to Win at Gin Rummy: Playing for Fun and Profit by Pramod Shankar. Unfortunately, the book doesn't ...
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### In Gin-Rummy, who start after a round was played to the wall?

Same player deals again. From thesprucecrafts If only two cards remain in the draw pile after a player discards and neither player has knocked, the round ends in a draw and the same player deals ...
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### What is the purpose of bonus points in Gin Rummy?

The most common way of betting money on Gin Rummy (according to this site) is to choose a rate per point (say \$1) that the loser pays the winner - e.g. if you lose 70 to 220, you pay \$150. When you're ...
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### Gin Rummy, incorrect knocking

Here's one answer from http://ginrummytournaments.com/pdfs/Rules_2012.pdf. Tl;dr if you could have knocked then you can accept his knock and undercut; otherwise game continues, he plays an open hand, ...
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### In Gin-Rummy, what is the bonus points for Gin and Undercut?

Gin-Rummy has many scoring variantions. As Andrew suggested in a comment, Paget is a good source for rules of card games. From Paget: Some people play that the bonus for going gin is 25 (rather ...
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### Memorizing the cards dealt in the game

I am not familiar with gin rummy but one method used by memory experts to remember a whole deck of 52 cards is to create yourself a memory palace with at least 18 rooms. You have to do this once and ...
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### Do I get bonus points for undercut with gin?

You only get the Undercut bonus + the 8 deadwood difference. Gin can be made only by the active player. Source: pagat:Gin Rummy Knocking with no unmatched cards at all is called going gin The ...
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### Do I get bonus points for undercut with gin?

I would go with only getting the underknock bonus since you didn't knock. I would argue that the Gin bonus is only given to the player that knocks since it is given for getting rid of all dead wood ...
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### Memorizing the cards dealt in the game

Aldinjo's answer is the best practice if you can find in you the mental power to build that great palace. If for some reason you don't feel you can build the palace, here is an easy walkaround: write....
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### Rummy version with a run of seven as last round

Sounds like you've already found the answer: it's a form of contract rummy, just with a different final contract than the one listed on the Wiki entry. From the contract rummy entry on rummy-games....
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### In Gin-Rummy, what are the chances to start with a Gin?

Three Independent sources counted about 136,694 Gin hands, out of 15.8B possible 10-cards hands. 2+2 forum post: 1 in ~118,000. Using brute force which checked for Gin each of the 15.8B hands. ...
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### Gin Rummy with Jokers

Various sites (e.g., rummyculture) list rummy variants with jokers, but not Gin Rummy specifically. But the rules could be adapted directly. Suggested set of rules: Jokers are worth 30, as in most ...
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### In Gin-Rummy, what are the chances to make Gin on the first turn?

I modified that program by Andrew Inwood to count them (including all the three-of-a-kinds, still), and it finds 5,379,372 11-card hands that contain a 10-card gin hand. Out of C(52,11) hands, that ...
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### Is it possible for an opponent to have zero deadwood when I gin?

Possible, but unlikely. It means that your opponent chose to discard when he had Gin. There is no good reason to do this. Other explanations: If both players are dealt a gin hand (very rare). A ...
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### Gin-Rummy with different number of cards

The standard 13 Card Rummy suggests you're OK to look to 13 as the basis of your pattern, yes. For Gin, I'd say you have it right: hands should be 4 + 3*k cards for some positive integer k. 11 is ...
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### In Gin-Rummy, when both players Pass, can the active player make a Pickup?

Pagat says the first player cannot go back and take the face up card but must draw from the stock: If both players refuse the turned-up card, the non-dealer draws the top card from the stock pile. ...
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### In Gin-Rummy, when not to Knock?

From Rummy-Talk: When to Knock, Play for Gin, or Underknock Knock, under most conditions, should be utilized at the first opportunity, with a few exceptions: When the odds are in favor of ...
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### In Gin-Rummy, how likely is that a round ends in a Draw?

I have played Gin often with my family, at least several hundred rounds. I do not recall ever having participated in a game which ended in a draw. I will note that I have primarily participated in ...
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### In Gin-Rummy, what are the chances to start with a Gin?

EDIT: this count is flawed, it doesn't recognize sets of three that include a spade. The correct number is given in the accepted answer. When the code is corrected, it gives the 136,694 unique gin ...
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