Timeline for Are there times when a hand with a seven card suit is too strong for a three level pre-empt?
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| Aug 4, 2014 at 8:04 | comment | added | Aryabhata | @TomAu: I would say good luck with that :-) | |
| Aug 4, 2014 at 6:45 | comment | added | ruds | @TomAu If you bid completely destructively, that's one thing. The main disadvantage to destructive preempts is that partner can never raise to game. I gave this hand to a few of my friends (including a national champion), and the consensus was that your hand should raise to game whenever partner is in second seat or vulnerable. | |
| Aug 3, 2014 at 18:56 | comment | added | Tom Au | @Aryabhata: Here's to you (and Ruds). What if I tell you that we bid three spades on "any seven cards, even 8765432" at favorable vulnerability, seven to the Q at equal vulnerability and seven to the KQ or QJT if vulnerable versus not, with no side honors? I'd love to see an extra jack to say, KQxxxxx, either in suit or not, but can't be sure of getting it. | |
| Aug 3, 2014 at 18:43 | comment | added | Aryabhata | @TomAu: ruds, is right. The Jacks are irrelevant when you bid 4S, and you must. Passing 3S is losing bridge (especially at teams/rubber). | |
| Aug 3, 2014 at 17:00 | comment | added | ruds | @TomAu You're focusing too heavily on the jacks. They're essentially meaningless to the decision of what to bid. Here they're nice because of your KQs, but partner can still lead toward your KQ and have a 50% chance of two winners in the suit. | |
| Aug 3, 2014 at 14:43 | comment | added | Tom Au | Interesting. The "difference" between your partners and mine is that your partners are likely to have the "two jacks" (or equivalent), and mine might not. (And unknown to me at the time, the focus of the question was the two jacks, not the side ace.) | |
| Aug 3, 2014 at 5:19 | comment | added | ruds | Here are 3 different kinds of minimum-ish hands that are better than 50% to make a game: AKTxxxx xx xx xx; KQJxxxx xx xxx x; QJTxxxx Ax xxx x. If you can only count on partner to have 5 trump tricks with nothing outside when they open at the 3-level red, your partners bid much more aggressively than I would have guessed. | |
| Aug 3, 2014 at 0:49 | comment | added | Tom Au | "Risked a game." That's a tough one for me, because it really depends on the two jacks (or lack thereof). Without them, partner has about 5 trump tricks, and I have three more with AJ and KQ for about eight. Those two J's are only two points, but opposite my KQ's, they're two extra tricks. | |
| Aug 2, 2014 at 22:26 | history | answered | ruds | CC BY-SA 3.0 |