Timeline for Void Winnower against Sunforger
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| Feb 14, 2019 at 21:26 | comment | added | ikegami | Re "Why Sunforger can still cast cards with odd converted mana cost", Nice addition | |
| Feb 14, 2019 at 12:36 | history | edited | Zags | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Feb 14, 2019 at 12:24 | history | edited | Zags | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Feb 13, 2019 at 12:07 | comment | added | ikegami | @Zags is correct. The rules direct you to follow Sunforger's ability's instruction to cast the spell (608.2c). Void Winnower's effect states you can't. Winnower's effect takes precedence over the rules (101.2). You do as much as possible (609.3), so you end up searching your library and shuffling it. (The card you found during your search is shuffled too since it never left the library.) | |
| Feb 13, 2019 at 9:10 | comment | added | fireshark519 | @Zags - rectracted my -1. Even though I don't agree as Sunforger is not allowing you to cast a spell but instead the ability is to cast a spell, I don't agree that it creates this point in the rules where there is a "can" and "can't" In my opinion it is more applicable to a Bristling Boar with menace than this. | |
| Feb 12, 2019 at 18:44 | comment | added | Andrew | @fireshark519 101.2 absolutely applies in this case, your own answer applies 101.2 but doesn't quote it. "you would be casting the spell, whether you pay the mana cost or not, it will still be a spell with converted mana cost 4 (or 2)." | |
| Feb 12, 2019 at 18:07 | history | edited | Zags | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Feb 12, 2019 at 18:03 | comment | added | Zags | @fireshark519 Sunforger says you can casting it (just without paying it's mana cost). Void winnower says you can't cast it. This is exactly what's relevant. | |
| Feb 12, 2019 at 15:51 | comment | added | fireshark519 | 101.2 not really what is applicable on this case. There is nothing allowing the casting of a 4 CMC in the same sense that winnower prevents things to be cast. Sunforger is creating an alternative casting method | |
| Feb 12, 2019 at 12:30 | history | answered | Zags | CC BY-SA 4.0 |