Timeline for Are there times to double for a one trick set in duplicate, when you would not do so in rubber?
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| Jan 25, 2021 at 20:09 | comment | added | Joe | @ForgetIwaseverhere I must have played different hands than you... it's fairly often that -50 is well above A+, in my experience, in higher level competition, and even if you're right that +50 is A-, at the higher levels turning those A- into A+ (or more) by doubling is key to a good final standing. It becomes something you (must) learn how to recognize, when a hand undoubled will inevitably be a poor score, and when doubling it is necessary to make it good - but it does happen, fairly often in my experience (and far more often watching the better players I've known). | |
| Jan 25, 2021 at 20:06 | comment | added | Forget I was ever here | @Joe: From club game to Regional Flight A, I rarely encounter a hand where +50 scores lower than A-. It's just not that common - if you're playing well. And if you're not plating well - then there is far more wrong with your game than neglecting to double the Opponent's part score for +100. | |
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| Jan 25, 2021 at 19:50 | comment | added | Joe |
I think this is right, for the most part, at the club level. I don't think that you can assume, for example, that a plus score, especially in a competitive auction, is rarely a Bottom in the higher levels of competitive Bridge; plenty of times there you'll see auctions where 25/30 hands are 1N= +90, and your opponents happen to play an odd 1N system that happens to end up in them declaring 1N instead, for -1. You double (+100=good board) or you don't (+50=bad board). In club bridge you just don't have that kind of consistency, so reliable positive is more important..
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| Jan 25, 2021 at 19:39 | comment | added | Forget I was ever here | @TomAu: Half that - once per session is more typical. There will always be 3 to 6 hands per session where Opponents - not you and Partner - have control in the Bidding. Attempting to control those hands is how you end up with a 35% game. Let them go, and try to get the extra trick in the play to salvage Average-Minus. If there's 6 such this session, it's just not fated to be a brilliant session. Play solid; go home with your 170 or 175; and look forward to the 'morrow. A session where Opponents are in control only thrice will come by; and that's the session to try for 200. | |
| Jan 25, 2021 at 18:36 | comment | added | Tom Au | The point I was trying to make was that this is at least "permissible" in matchpoints, but "rare" even then .I wasn't thinking every hand, or even every other or third hand. Maybe every eighth or tenth. But those "eighths" or "tenths" add up to two or three hands a session. The other thing I got from your comment is that you wouldn't double if you thought you could get 2 points out of 12 by not doubling. That would imply that you are only "risking" 1's or 0's against "top or bottom, which would have a weighted average value of 4-6 out of 12. | |
| Jan 25, 2021 at 18:07 | comment | added | Forget I was ever here | @TomAu: There will always be part-score hands, every session, where the Opponents are entitled to earn an 8 or 9 if they bid and play correctly. Turning your 3's and 4's into 0's is losing bridge - unless you're getting nearly as many 11's; and those 11's are harder to come by than you realize. Often one pair in the room had a meltdown and gave up 500, so the best you're ever getting is actually a 10, tied with two other pairs. Sometimes you key Declarer's play and turn +100 into -750. Perhaps everyone's down and +100 is a near top. Not every hand is yours - accept it. | |
| Jan 25, 2021 at 17:39 | comment | added | Tom Au | So it's "never" in rubber and only "rarely" in match points. Under restrictive circumstances: 1) opponents are "sacrificing" by bidding e.g 3 minor over 2 major. 2) You know where the setting trick is 3) Without converting a vulnerable -100 to -200, you are almost as likely to get a bottom or near-bottom as if you tried and failed. Therefore try and (hopefully) succeed. | |
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| Jan 25, 2021 at 11:52 | history | answered | Forget I was ever here | CC BY-SA 4.0 |