Timeline for What is offensive about the card "Stone-Throwing Devils"?
Current License: CC BY-SA 4.0
15 events
| when toggle format | what | by | license | comment | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mar 5, 2021 at 18:45 | comment | added | NotThatGuy | @Juhasz I'm not invested enough in defending a religion I have little to no investment in on this heavily downvoted answer posted by someone else to try to argue my point in more detail that I already have, but suffice to say different people will interpret it differently. | |
| Mar 5, 2021 at 18:42 | comment | added | NotThatGuy | @Andrew All the current answers are speculative (as best I can tell) because they didn't reference any official source. I didn't see that quote in any answer posted when I posted my comment, and I'm still not seeing that in any answer. Also, that was posted 6 years before the ban, so it's entirely plausible that reasons changed since then. It will probably still be seen as a slur, but that doesn't mean additional reasons weren't added and didn't become more important than the slur over time. Even the quote itself doesn't remove the possibility of there having been other factors at the time | |
| Mar 5, 2021 at 18:14 | comment | added | Juhasz | @NotThatGuy, I'm not seeing any undermining of Jesus's message. Quite the opposite - this paraphrase seems to suggest the same thing, only more strongly. Jesus said, in essence: you condemn a woman for her sins, but you are sinners yourselves. Or, to rephrase: "sometimes those with sin cast stones." The flavor text takes this a step further. Not only are the ones casting stones also sinners, they are the most sinful. This seems to echo Matthew 7:5: "You hypocrite! First, remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother’s eye." | |
| Mar 5, 2021 at 17:32 | comment | added | Andrew | @NotThatGuy That's not true, and this answer is wrong, since there IS official explanation on why the card would never be reprinted (and later was outright banned and 'removed') from MaRo himself where he says on his tumblr blogatog it's because "the title is a slur." I can't think of a much more official source than the head designer for Magic the Gathering for the past 2 decades, except maybe Dr. Garfield. | |
| Mar 5, 2021 at 11:35 | comment | added | DavePhD | @iono sorry, the PhD is only in chemistry, not religion :) | |
| Mar 5, 2021 at 10:31 | comment | added | NotThatGuy | It's not just a reference, it's a manipulation of the quote for humorous effect that kind of makes fun of the message of the quote. Many or most Christians consider the Bible to be a sacred text that should neither be manipulated nor made fun of, and that quote in particularly speaks to an important Christian value. Also, this is happening on a card with "devil" in the name, which further undermines the quote. This seems like a plausible explanation for the ban, and the answers here are a bit speculative either way, since there doesn't seem to be an official explanation. | |
| Mar 4, 2021 at 20:08 | history | undeleted | murgatroid99♦ | ||
| Mar 4, 2021 at 19:29 | history | deleted |
Toon Krijthe doppelgreener Andrew |
via Vote | |
| Mar 4, 2021 at 19:19 | comment | added | DavePhD | @doppelgreener I added evidence that some Christians are offended by the misuse of Christian themes in Magic the Gathering. | |
| Mar 4, 2021 at 19:14 | history | edited | DavePhD | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
added 297 characters in body
|
| Mar 4, 2021 at 19:02 | comment | added | DavePhD | @doppelgreener Some people will be offended that Jesus's message is being usurped for the purpose of the card and some people will be offended that the card has a theme of Christian origin. | |
| Mar 4, 2021 at 18:44 | comment | added | doppelgreener | The reference is clear, but this doesn't answer why the card was considered offensive. | |
| Mar 4, 2021 at 18:43 | review | Low quality posts | |||
| Mar 4, 2021 at 19:29 | |||||
| Mar 4, 2021 at 18:17 | review | First posts | |||
| Mar 4, 2021 at 18:36 | |||||
| Mar 4, 2021 at 18:13 | history | answered | DavePhD | CC BY-SA 4.0 |