Timeline for Is it too late to save my creatures?
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Oct 19, 2022 at 19:25 | vote | accept | Hey I Can Chan | ||
Oct 17, 2022 at 20:21 | comment | added | Miles Budnek | @Joshua There has never been an opportunity to cast a spell or activate an ability between when lethal damage is marked on a creature and when that creature gets put into the graveyard (at least since the stack has existed). There was a time when combat damage went on the stack, so you could regenerate a creature between when combat damage went on the stack and when it was actually dealt to creatures, but that changed back in 2010. | |
Oct 17, 2022 at 18:31 | comment | added | Joshua | @NuclearHoagie: I'm expecting to regenerate the creature while it has lethal combat damage and not yet removed. I played in the era where this was how it worked, and yes we had a stack. | |
Oct 17, 2022 at 18:14 | comment | added | Nuclear Hoagie | @Joshua Yes, but that instant must be played before the creature dies, since after it does it's a creature card in the graveyard, not a "target creature". There have been some changes to how combat damage is handled, but it's always been simultaneously applied to all recipients - you'd never have Wail of Nim deal combat damage to the opponent before other creatures in combat received their combat damage. All combat damage is applied at once. | |
Oct 17, 2022 at 16:08 | comment | added | GendoIkari | @Joshua Can you explain? A lot of regeneration spells/abilities say "regenerate target creature", that's the most common way a regeneration spell would work. This example is only different in that instead of targeting a specific creature, it regenerates "each creature" you control. Works the same either way. | |
Oct 17, 2022 at 16:05 | comment | added | Joshua | This answer cannot be right. There's an old instant with the game text "regenerate target creature." | |
Oct 17, 2022 at 12:07 | comment | added | Mazura | @HeyICanChan - I'm just complaining about regeneration, not having played the game in 20y... | |
Oct 17, 2022 at 12:04 | comment | added | Hey I Can Chan | @Mazura I'm a little lost now… and I don't want to be as I plan to use this combination. Does adding mana to one's mana pool somehow preempt or cause to fizzle the Wail of the Nim's regeneration "shield"? Or is this frustration about the concept of the regeneration shield in the first place? Or something else? | |
Oct 17, 2022 at 11:42 | comment | added | Mazura | "This ability must be used at the moment the creature would normally be removed from play." magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/… - perhaps you could always dump, but it didn't setup a standing regen for the rest of the turn. | |
Oct 17, 2022 at 9:14 | comment | added | Arthur | @Mazura I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to, but couldn't you always do that? (At least since the introduction of the stack back in 6th edition; I don't know enough about how things worked before then.) | |
Oct 17, 2022 at 7:58 | comment | added | Mazura | So these days you can preempt a regen with a mana dump? lame. | |
Oct 16, 2022 at 19:01 | history | answered | GendoIkari | CC BY-SA 4.0 |