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Partner opened with 2C -- I responded with 2D (I have 2 pts)-- Partner responded with 3C.

Is the rebid 3C by partner forcing me to bid (I don’t have enough clubs) or can I pass here?

It's just that I heard from some sources the advice "with strong hand '2C' - the partnership must get to game."

On the other hand however, we might have 25 pts, but not have 8-card fit, or stopper in suit for NT play.

Is it legal to pass?

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    What was your specific holding? That would be useful here. Commented Jun 12, 2013 at 18:52

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It's "legal", as in not against the law; but ill advised if you expect and desire to play with this partner again.

Modern agreements tend to the line of "forcing to 2NT, or 3 of a major, or 4 of a minor".

This guarantees the 2C opener 3 calls to define the hand, and infers that a 2C opening based on a strong minor suit must either be suitable for NT or about a trick better than one based on a strong major suit.

Also, consider partner's problem with a strong club or diamond hand. How could partner possibly describe this hand without the assurance of not being passed in a 3C or 3D rebid?

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In regards to your specific situation, I would rank possible bids over partner's 3C rebid in this order with 2 HCP as follows:

  • Bid 3 of any 6-card suit
  • Bid 4C with 3 or more of them
  • Bid any 5-card suit at the three level
  • Bid 3D with Qxxx or JTxx of diamonds in an unbalanced hand, in case partner want to show a two-suiter
  • Bid 3NT otherwise

Your 3NT should never end up as the final contract, because partner has denied all interest in NT by bidding 3C. This bid denies any extremely unbalanced hand, by failing the criteria for all the higher preferences; this is valuable to partner in assessing level and denomination.

If partner continues with 4C over any of these calls, you can pass. If partner bids a new suit this continues the force, and you must choose between:

  • bid a new suit to show your value and promise 4+ support in partner's second suit;
  • Jump in a new suit to show a singleton and 4+ support for partner's second suit;
  • single-raise partner's suit with 3 or 4 of them.
  • preference back to clubs with exactly 2 of them.

No other possibilities exist. This scheme is not in any way conventional, but simply common-sense natural bidding. Even the splinter jump has become a natural call, as what is termed an "impossible value-showing hand", and thus must be the exact opposite of it's literal meaning: instead of strong, length-showing denying support, it must be weak, shortness showing, and confirming support. While not all partners will recognize this call, all experts will.

If partner bids 4NT over your rebid this is Blackwood (with clubs as trump if you play key-card), and consequently forcing.

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  • 4C over 3NT might have a range of meanings in this situation; in any case, I really don't think you can pass a bid that takes you out of game. And even if 'all experts will recognise this' scheme, it may not help a player who's uncertain which bids are forcing. (I agree with you, by the way; just saying this is a site for Bridge beginners as much as mavens.) Commented Jun 12, 2013 at 23:18
  • Unless partner is wearing his hair-shirt today, yes 4C can be passed. The 2C opening and 3C rebid showed 9 1/2 tricks, and with luck the Q will generate the remaining 1/5 trick to let partner make 4C. No need to punish partner for being dealt a minimum 2C opener. Commented Jun 12, 2013 at 23:59
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Questions like this depend on what you have agreed with partner (presumably not applicable here) or the default for your system. The default for Acol, for example, is that, unless the bidding goes 2C-2D-2NT, you must continue until game is reached. Here, partner is showing a long club suit as well as points, and would like to know your best suit before deciding on which game.

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These kind of issue, of course, mostly depends on your agreement with your partner.

but I think making 2C - 2D - 3C passable is ill advised.

just ask yourself this question: If partner can allow you to pass now, why didn't s/he just open 1C?

to open 2C with unbalanced hands: you will need 9+ tricks for major(s), and 10+ trick for minor(s)

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