# If you pass GO, do you collect 200 at the end of the turn or as you pass GO?

This is to settle a current dispute with our game. Here's the scenario: Someone rolled the dice and landed on Community Chest, passing GO in the process. They picked up the card and it read 'Pay 10 pound or Take a Chance'. They took a Chance, and the Chance card said 'Go back 3 spaces.' They landed on Mayfair, passing back over the GO square to get there. They argued that they should still receive 200 pound because they already passed GO, and you receive the money when passing it NOT at the end of your turn.

I believe that this is correct and you should get the money as you pass GO rather than at the end of your turn (therefore removing the money you got by passing if you went backwards and landed on a square before GO). I've looked in the rules and I think you get the money as you pass, rather than after the consequences of your turn.

What's the official stance on this?

• If I were that player I'd be arguing that I passed GO twice, once going forwards and once going backwards, and that I should have collected \$200 each time. (Not to mention the \$200 I'm bound to get on my next turn.) Commented Nov 4, 2012 at 2:17
• Is this question from an official version of monopoly or one of the 3 party variants? I do not recall such a card that is 'pay x or take a chance' Commented Nov 5, 2012 at 13:47
• @ColinD There is a list of all Community Chest and Chance cards available on Wikipedia. It might not be the best surce of knowledge, but there is information that the Pay a \$10 fine or take a Chance card was omitted in U.S. editions since 1936. Commented Nov 5, 2012 at 15:16
• @Gregor But since you are passing go backwards, maybe you should lose \$200... ;-) Commented Sep 21, 2016 at 22:06

You collect \$200 each time you pass over or land on the GO. See the official rules.

Each time a player's token lands on or passes over GO, whether by throwing the dice or drawing a card, the Banker pays that player a \$200 salary. "The \$200 is paid only once each time around the board. However, if a player passing GO on the throw of the dice lands 2 spaces beyond it on Community Chest, or 7 spaces beyond it on Chance, and draws the "Advance to GO" card, they collect \$200 for passing GO the first time, and another \$200 for Advancing to it the second time by the instructions on the card."

Your question is quite interesting, it has been asked before here and here.

What I think, is that player should collect \$200 only if passing GO in the clockwise direction or landing on it (also by advancing to or over the GO using card). The rules state that it is possible to collect \$200 more than once in a turn, however in this case I think that the player in question should:

1. Collect \$200 for passing GO.
2. Take the chance card, go back 3 spaces to Mayfair. Do not collect \$200 for passing GO this time.
3. Collect \$200 for passing GO in the next turn.

I might be wrong though.

# Edit

There were some good comments posted that made me think more about this particular situation. I'm making this edit to answer all of them comprehensively, hopefully. Sorry about the long post.

## Pay a \$10 fine or take a Chance

Comment from @ColinD made me look for more information about the card. I've found information on Wikipedia that this card was omitted in U.S. editions since 1936. I'm assuming it wasn't ommited just in U.S. editions, since I've never actually seen this card in real life and I live in Europe.

This might be what makes things complicated here. As @ColinD suggested later, situation described in the OP's question might be the only way to achieve passing GO in the counter-clockwise fashion. Since the card allowing this to happen was omitted, there was no need to address this issue in the official rules - that's why they might not be crystal clear about this. I'm also afraid that looking at the rules from 1936 wouldn't solve this issue.

If you would like to learn more about the history of Monopoly game, take a look on this and this.

## Authorities

I wasn't completely sure my answer was correct and there were some good points made by other users. So, I decided to contact authorities for consultation. This is what I was told.

### Hasbro Customer Service

After contacting them by online form and describing situation (without mentioning my thoughts on how this should be resolved) I received following response:

Thank you for contacting Hasbro Customer Service regarding the rules for Monopoly. I'm delighted to help!

1. The player collects \$200 for passing GO. They can choose to ask for it as soon as they pass the space or at the end of their turn. Either way, no matter when they ask for it, it's owed to them for passing GO.

2. Players do not collect \$200 for passing GO counter-clockwise.

3. Yes, the player should collect \$200 again as they passed GO.

I hope this helps! Happy gaming!

Ok, so this answer doesn't provide much reasoning behind this, but the results of rules interpretation seem to be the same as mine.

### Main Judge of the Polish Monopoly Championships

I've contacted Mr. Michael Stajszczak, who was the main judge in all editions of the Polish Monopoly Championships. He judged many other games in tournaments and made a fair amount of rules translation for different board games. Again, I didn't suggest any particular interpretation of the rules in this situation. This is what he replied:

If described situation was to happen in the tournament, the decision would be like this:

Player should immediately collect \$200 for passing GO, before drawing Community Chest card. He doesn't collect money for passing over GO in backward direction. However in the next move, when he will be passing GO again, he should collect another \$200.

This is the way I understood the rules. However, @Johno made a good point that maybe the player shouldn't collect another \$200 when passing GO on the following turn due to the The \$200 is paid only once each time around the board clarification, because he's already had the return for completing that circuit. I've also asked Mr. Stajszczak about this interpetation of the rules:

Indeed, this sentence could be interpreted in more than one way. However, I think it addresses different issue. This was to resolve the situation where player finishes his move on the GO - so that he won't get the money twice (first time for landing on GO and second time for leaving it).

By the way, the quoted sentence isn't present in Polish set of the rules. That's why this wasn't an issue in any of the Polish tournaments. Unfortunately we can't ask the game designer about this since he passed away.

Just in case of doubt, there was always an information in the Championship rules that the game rules are as main judge interpets them.

I believe this is probably the best answer you could get for this situation. That's the way the issue would most likely be resolved in the official tournament.

• I assume "passing Go" only applies if you pass it in a clockwise direction (based on my own hazy recollections of playing the game when younger). Though that's not necessarily an intuitive definition of "passing". Are the rules specific on this point? Commented Nov 3, 2012 at 22:29
• In newer version of monopoly (US versions atleast), I do not think there is any way to 'pass' go except in a clockwise fashion. Commented Nov 5, 2012 at 17:45
• I dispute number 3. I agree that you do get the money for passing GO (forwards), then that you don't get more for passing backwards. But I think you don't get more money when you pass GO on the following turn due to the "The \$200 is paid only once each time around the board" clarification. You've already had the return for completing that circuit. Commented Nov 7, 2012 at 12:12
• if you've rolled doubles and you get the go back three spaces bit, it's still your turn, you can pass go again; you could hit it a third time on the same turn if that roll took you to the "Advance to Go" card. Possible ... but improbable ;) Commented Nov 7, 2012 at 18:28
• My parents own the 1947 edition of the UK version of the game which does feature the "Pay a £10 fine or take a Chance" Community Chest card. Commented Feb 2, 2015 at 12:15

You get \$200 for passing GO only in a FORWARD direction.

If you "pass" GO by "going BACK three spaces" to Mayfair, you do not earn \$200.

And you get \$200 for landing on, or passing go, but not both.

• But his question is "immediately or at end of turn?" Commented Nov 7, 2012 at 17:34
• @shujaa - the rules indicate it is as soon as you do so Commented Nov 7, 2012 at 18:28

This case only happens in UK edition since the card "Pay a ₤10 fine or take a Chance" only exists in UK edition. And the UK edition rules book say:

"Every time you either land on or pass "GO" while moving in the direction of the arrow, you are paid £200 by the Bank."

So, you don't collect ₤200 when you pass GO backward.

To summarize:

• When the player first passes GO, they're payed immediately.
• When they go backwards through GO by a card's command, then back forward on the next turn, they aren't payed again.

The rulebook says:

“GO”… Each time a player’s token lands on or passes over GO, whether by throwing the dice or drawing a card, the Banker pays him/her a \$200 salary.
The \$200 is paid only once each time around the board. However, if a player passing GO on the throw of the dice lands 2 spaces beyond it on Community Chest, or 7 spaces beyond it on Chance, and draws the “Advance to GO” card, he/she collects \$200 for passing GO the first time and another \$200 for reaching it the second time by instructions on the card.

• The phrase is `"Each time a player’s token lands on or passes over GO..., the Banker pays...`, nothing about the end of the turn. Neither are there any general principles elsewhere in the rulebook mandating anything to happen at the end of a turn. So the payment is effective the moment they reach GO.

• Then the rule states the general principle: `"The \$200 is paid only once each time around the board."`.

• There are no (zero, zilch, nada) exceptions to this principle anywhere in the rules. In particular:
• All that the note after it effectively says is clarify the meaning of the “Advance to GO” card: it means advance clockwise, however far that is. I.e. it's fully in agreement with the principle and doesn't say or imply anything about any other cards.
• The only way to not receive the salary when you normally would is to be sent to jail. Again, this rule does not break the principle by explicitly stating that you move in such a way that you don't pass GO en route:

When you are sent to Jail you cannot collect your \$200 salary in that move since, regardless of where your token is on the board, you must move it directly into Jail.

• If a player goes backwards through GO, and then back forward through it on the next turn, they haven't yet completed another full circle around the board, so there's no reason to pay an additional \$200.
• Note that the card says "go back 3 spaces", not "go forward a full circle minus 3 spaces". You wouldn't request another \$200 if you moved back 3 spaces elsewhere on the board, would you? And that would be exactly the thing to do if "move back" actually meant "move forward almost a full circle".
• The rule is in conflict with its explanatory text. "Each time a player’s token lands on or passes over GO" clearly says you get paid twice (or is it three times because backwards is also passing?) and "The ¤200 is paid only once each time around the board" clearly says you get paid once. The intent is to pay ¤200 for a full circuit of the board, which has been simplified to "when you pass GO", which does the same thing in almost all cases. So, you have to decide, do you follow the rule as written, or the explanatory text? Commented Sep 6, 2017 at 23:09
• If you normally made a full circuit except for three spaces, you would pass GO every time (except in this case) and get paid ¤200. Commented Sep 6, 2017 at 23:10
• @CJDennis the phrases "Each time..." and "...only once..." complement each other. The latter sets the minimal period between payouts, the former specifies the exact moment of time in a turn when it happens. No conflict here. In other words, the latter phrase is not "explanatory text", it's also normative. Commented Sep 6, 2017 at 23:41
• @CJDennis Frankly, I'm quite shocked that anyone would casually dismiss a major part of a rulebook as "explanatory text", just like that. In a rulebook, everything is normative by default. You only have the right to declare something "explanatory" if you have evidence to back it up - like a clear distinct formatting/separation, or phrases like "For example...", or the fact that it reiterates the same as other statements, only in more words. You don't dismiss parts of laws' provisions as "explanatory", now do you? Commented Sep 7, 2017 at 0:00