In Gin-Rummy, in the start of a round players draw 10 cards.
What is the probability to draw 10 cards such that all the cards are part of some meld?
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Three Independent sources counted about 136,694 Gin hands, out of 15.8B possible 10-cards hands.
2+2 forum post: 1 in ~118,000. Using brute force which checked for Gin each of the 15.8B hands.
Rulemonger's analysis: 136,694 in 15,820,024,220 or 1 in ~115733
How to Win at Gin Rummy: 1 in ~117,000, according to the book How to Win at Gin Rummy: Playing for Fun and Profit which state that there are 136,694 Gin hands out of 15,820,024,220 hands. See page 65:
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1I've made a combinatorics count as well, as further confirmation: entropyclay.wordpress.com/2020/09/28/gin Commented Sep 28, 2020 at 15:33
EDIT: this count is flawed, it doesn't recognize sets of three that include a spade. The correct number is given in the accepted answer. When the code is corrected, it gives the 136,694 unique gin hands, matching the accepted answer.
Original:
1 in 308,984, according to Andrew Inwood's analysis, which includes source code.
answered Jul 15, 2019 at 11:58
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1Does that include being able to pick up a visible discard to make Gin on your first turn? I'm inclined to think it doesn't, because I've done that twice, and I only play gin for an hour, once a week, for the past 4-5 years. Commented Jul 15, 2019 at 12:07
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it does not. Just the first 10 cards. Getting a gin in the first turn (out of the first 11 cards) is a better (much harder question Commented Jul 15, 2019 at 12:14
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This appears to count Aces as low-only, I assume this is why it disagrees with the other counts. See GinManager::SetUsableCards in bitbucket.org/ainwood87/gin/src/master/GinManager.cpp, which has nine types of length-five runs, when it should be 10. Commented Sep 22, 2020 at 16:55
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2Because Aces are low-only, in the standard rules of Gin (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_rummy#Objective) Commented Sep 22, 2020 at 17:12
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2Found it: it doesn't recognize three-of-a-kinds that include a spade, so undercounts the number of gin hands accordingly. Commented Sep 23, 2020 at 13:29