Questions tagged [joseki]

In Go, a joseki is a common pattern of moves that leads to a locally even result. Usually focused on the corners during the opening.

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Why choose tsuke-nobi after a double keima against hoshi?

I have been looking at §28 of 38 Basic Joseki, which deals with a double keima kakari against a stone on hoshi. I realise that this book is old and restricts itself somewhat, but I am taking it as a ...
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What is this alternate cut after 3-3 against double keima round hoshi?

In 38 Basic Joseki, Kosugi & Davies remark in this position: $$c $$ -------------------- $$ -. . . . . . . . . . $$ -. . . . . . . . . . $$ -. . 1 . . O . . . . $$ -. . . X . a . . . X $$ -. . . ...
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What joseki, if any, yields this position on page 60 of 38 Basic Joseki?

When introducing pincer joseki on page 60 of 38 Basic Joseki, Kiyoshi Kosugi and James Davies use this position as an illustration: $$Bc Illustration of pincer $$ --------- $$ ........- $$ .....O..- $...
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Having started a small avalanche, what does one do with an undefended cutting stone?

Having just looked at the small avalanche (nadare / konadare) in 38 Basic Joseki I tried it out as White in a 2-stone game against GNU Go and was surprised that it left out the move at a, immediately ...
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What is the meaning of this Joseki continuation?

In games against Leela with 7 handicap stones, Leela (white) plays the following variant of a well known joseki (knight move approach with one space pincer) $$W $$ ---------------------- $$ |............
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Trick Joseki? Shoulder hit after keima to 3-4-stone

In a game I played, the following "Joseki" occurred: I played the low keima against the 3-4-point, and Black responded with a shoulder hit. This move is not in the book by Takao Shinji. In the game ...
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Why is this NOT joseki?

Why is white 4 in this diagram not joseki? How can it be punished by black and how bad is it compared to standard joseki play? $$ ---------- $$ ..........| $$ ..........| $$ ..3.2.....| $$ ...4..1...|...
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3-3 invasion into 4-4,6-4

In josekipedia, they state that this exchange is a mistake See http://www.josekipedia.com/#path:pdttpfqcpcqdqepbobrbpaqaqb for the full sequence they argue with. But, I think that their argument is ...
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Mistake on Josekipedia after probe & invasion on keima shimari?

I have found a possible problem in this joseki, see josekipedia: http://www.josekipedia.com/#path:qdttocrdreqcpdpbrcrbsdobnbncmcndmbpcodsb They comment this white's move as "Makes life". But it ...
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4-4 high approach - why is the defensive approach prefered?

In the 4-4 high approach joseki, why would black ever want to play the defensive - left variant? The result of the right variant looks much better! While the left variant leaves monkey jump ...
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4-4 high approach joseki question

I have a question about 4-4 high approach joseki. Everything is clear until move 4. I don't know how to respond if black plays C15 instead of the expected C17 (stone number 5). It leads to the ...
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4-4 high approach joseki incomplete?

I have a problem with the 4-4 high approach joseki - the left variant: In the left variant, black ends the joseki and white can play anywhere else, i.e. has sente. But the position is pretty weak for ...
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4-4 pincer variant - not in joseki dictionary

I am 4K and played against 2K in handicap game (2-stones). The point of B3 was to prevent a double-wing shape for white (along the right and bottom) So W4 pincer leads us into this joseki variant. ...
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3-4 point joseki - wide double-pincer

After a low approach at W2, B3 is a wide pincer. I double-pincered at W4 and then diagonal B5. $$ $$ . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . 4 . . | $$ . . . . . . . 5 ....
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Corner variation which is not in Josekipedia

$$Bcm1 $$ ------------------- $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . . a 0 4 8 . | $$ . . . . . 1 5 6 . | $$ . . . . . . 9 7 . | $$ . . . . . . 2 . . | $$ . . . . . . . . . | $$ . . . ....
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Deviation of 3-3 invasion - how to live/kill?

I know the following is joseki for an approach of the 4-4 stone followed by a 3/3 invasion... $$cm1 A normal 3/3 invasion joseki (incomplete) $$ +---------------------------------------+ $$ | . . . . ...
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Komoku-Oogeima joseki order variation

In a game my opponent deviated from the joseki line I was familiar with. $$W Actual game $$ ------------ $$ -........... $$ -.94........ $$ -.5128O..... $$ -..X36...0,. $$ -...7....... $$ -..............
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What is the best way to respond to this pincer joseki deviation?

Every now and again when I approach a corner, opponent plays 1-space pincer and I jump out, my opponent immediately peeps. This seems like aji keshi and bad shape, but I've been stumped as to how to ...
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Where can I find a good Joseki database?

I've been wondering about certain positions that arise often. To help me understand them, I would like to study the joseki moves. Since printed joseki dictionaries are out-dated very fast, I'd prefer ...